GDT: 12/9/19 - 7:00PM EDT - New York Islanders vs Tampa Bay

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  1. Antiramie

    Antiramie Registered User

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    Half our forwards are strictly offensive players. That’s the problem. Add CV to the list.
     
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    Fine to be an offensive player but not one with a single goal to show for it.
     
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    Give him time. Point took quite a while to start finding the net, and now look at him.

    Obviously Point bring defense as well, but my point is that sometimes offense can take time to click at the next level. It looks like it’s starting to click a bit for CV.
     
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    I totally agree I just took exception With the comment he had another good game last night.
     
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    I don't think that's true at all. The most strictly offensive forward we have is Kucherov, and even he is a "do no harm" defensive player. Just about everybody else has a pretty solid defensive conscience, including Stamkos. Palat, Point, Cirelli, and, to a lesser extent, Killorn, are genuinely "good" defensive players.
     
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    Marchessault is probably a better example. We could see the skill and the instincts, but it took a while--it took a move to the Panthers--for him to put it all together.

    CV's not going to play a major role for us this year, so we can afford to let him develop and hope for the best. It's not like he's holding a game-breaking player out of the line-up.

    A single forward who's not overly effective on most nights is not the team's problem. Suspect goaltending + a system that's ineffective against shut-down teams have been the problem this year.
     
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    No the proportion of offensive to defensive forwards is about right. The issue is Cooper continuing to insist that the D get up into the offensive play more than he ever has and the forwards not getting back to cover for them. When you try to squeeze an extra 1/2 goal out of the D the O is now giving up one or two. The net gain is a loss. Cooper has tried to adjust the lines to get this to work but it just is not. Unless he goes back to the forwards carrying the mail like last year we are going to continue to see this halfassed production.

    They were defensively sound last night in the first period. They go down two goals and are pressuring all out to score and just totally lost any defensive scheme. That is what a Trotz team does to you. Not to again mention that they were totally outplayed on the forecheck and backcheck.

    Here is a warning if the get behind tonight early the result is going to be the same coach Q knows how to choke a team as well as Trotz. I am about half afraid to even watch what Coop is doing this year is so damn predictable. And if this dumbass ole country boy from the mountain's of Tennessee can see it you can bet other coaches can.
     
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