GDT: 2019-20 GM #11 LA Kings vs Minnesota Wild @5:00pm 10/26/19

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  1. Frolov 6'3

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    Kempe is very bad currently but lets not overreact.

    11 games in....get real.
     
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    oh he did play against vancouver i guess, my mistake. thought the prokhorkin swap was just for bjornfot, didn't remember they sent grundstrom down then too


    there's part of me that likes how tmac is feeding him on the PP to get him going but there's also a part of me that thinks kovy would do better on that unit as the one-timer threat

    probably an element of bad luck given how much kempe's been shooting, the averages win out eventually when you're shooting at that clip.. but he's a goal scorer right, at some point he has to score goals. frustrating. probably equally for him
     
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    Are we supposed to forget how abysmal he was last season as well? He’s consistently disappointing.
     
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    The special teams sunk this one past the point of recovery, but LA had a bad start, looked very de-synced and sluggish for the first 20. They picked it up enough that a powerplay goal could have totally changed the game dynamic in the 2nd. And then it was too late.

    Played well enough to win against a bad team until they gave up.
     
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    The whole team was, why do you need to single out Kempe. Only because it fits your narrative.
     
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    Wagner and Clifford didn’t perform embarrassingly last season. I guess I shouldn’t bring up facts because it “fits my narrative” when pointing out how disappointing a player has been for more than just 11 games, as you wrongly suggested.
     
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    No it is just these 11 games.

    You are one of those who terribly overreact.
     
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    How am I overreacting, by disagreeing with your silly assertion that Kempe wasn’t bad last season?

    Perhaps you can explain what Kempe was good at last season.
     
  9. Frolov 6'3

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    That is not a silly assertion. That is your silly opinion to make an unfair point.

    Perhaps you can explain why about 15 players werent good last season.

    We are 11 games in. Pearson was traded, Forbort is out, Toffoli is somehow playing decent again. Now its Kempe’s turn.
     
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    kempe needs a conditioning assignment in the AHL, for about a month.
     
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    1) You can't loan a player on a conditioning assignment without his consent
    2) You can only be sent out for 14 days
    3) If the commissioner feels the assignment is to evade the wavier process or the CBA, the commissioner may penalize the franchise. (it clearly would be just that)

    Therefore, strike 3 on this as a possibility.
     
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    Adrian Kempe has 1 power play goal in 198 NHL games. He has had time on the power play in each of his 4 seasons.

    16-17 0:48 average PP time per game
    17-18 1:06 average PP time per game
    18-19 1:21 average PP time per game
    19-20 2:46 average PP time per game
     
  13. kings11

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    And that's still too much PP time.. The kid for all his talent lacks the IQ... I'm starting to think he'll be Lewis 2.o (More Points), He could have used more time in the AHL but we rushed him imo... I think this is why someone like Rasmus Kupari wont/shouldnt make his debut for another 2-3 seasons once his game has rounded out...
    I view Kempe and Iafallo as guys that are obviously flawed and are being asked to perform above their capabilities, whether its Talent, IQ, finishing ability, playmaking..etc. These two in my eyes at least have become placeholders on this team... Grundstrom, JAD, Turcotte, 2020 pick(Lafreniere or Byfield), Fagemo, Kupari, Luff, Thomas are some of the kids that will start tickling in over the next 3 seasons just as Kempe/Iafallo's contracts expire..
     
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    I would 100% rather have Amadio out there on the PP than Kempe. He hasn't done anything to earn it and I don't know why they throw him out there sometimes on the point like he's Kovalchuk.
     
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    Good luck with that. Amadio is getting benched over Kempe at this point. Boggles the mind.
     
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    Not really. Kempe is on the pp because he can skate the puck in. The fact his shot can't hit the net is irrelevant since no one else can either. Amadio was benched because he's a spectator on D.
     
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    It's funny how well everyone can remember Amadio's one big mistake on D but give other guys free passes constantly.

    Will never understand why people are basically rooting for this dude to fail at this point, some folks have been trying to leave him off the roster since the end of last year.

    Re: Kempe on the PP he can skate the puck in better than almost anyone on the squad and in all his play everywhere but the NHL he's been a terrifying PP guy, not sure why he's so brain dead here but that's the best I can assume on why TM is giving him every opportunity possible to prove himself right or wrong.
     
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    Established vets always get free passes. Not sure what your point is.
     
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    And Kempe is a spectator in every facet of the game other than skating the puck in on the PP. By your logic since no one can score on the PP then the one thing he brings to the table is irrelevant. It's no surprise that the 4th line got be the best looks on the powerplay yesterday, and somehow they did it without Kempe's magical skating ability.
     
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    Amadio is not NHL level unless the puck is on his stick from the dots in. His transitional and defensive zone awareness is amateur hour. When you don't have the foot speed to recover for not seeing things as they develop, you are going to be on the ice for a whole lot of outnumbered attacks against, which has been the case. He gets caught watching way, way too often.

    Its a shame, because he really has great vision on attack, especially in traffic. His ability to make plays in the slot is ahead of anybody else on the current roster.
     
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    One? Its consistent. Who do you think MacLellan was talking about when he said he couldn't believe that the same line made the same mistake twice? He has been very poor this season when he isn't moving the puck towards the net. Its no shock that he sat out yesterday, he needs a break to reassess his ability to play in this league.
     
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    Don't tell me, you need to go see TM right away.
     
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    I already tried but something something restraining order something something.
     
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    Dude is a turnover machine in all three zones.
     
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    Haha. Ok. You and I are just going to fundamentally disagree on everything since Amadio isn't NHL caliber but Roy is one of our better d-men? Give me a break.

    He's on the ice for less high-danger chances than almost anyone on the roster rate-wise and count-wise, his anticipation is one of his greatest attributes since his foot speed isn't great. He's often the guy picking the puck and turning the play the other way for chrissakes.



    He was very visibly talking about Kovalchuk.

    your player evaluation is really questionable right now.
     
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