Post-Game Talk: #27| Vegas Golden Knights @ New York Islanders | December 5th | 7:00 PM | F/OTW 3-2

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  1. Richie Daggers Crime

    Richie Daggers Crime Fistie Daggers Crime

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    I get why it happens. It's an emotional response based on the fact that enforcers are entertaining, underdogs, have a thankless job, fight for their team, etc. It's the whole core of that Goon movie with Stiffler. So, people have an emotional attachment to enforcers and try to elevate them to roles to which they're not suited.
     
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    Except in this case our goon is currently a better forward option than Dal Colle or Martin.
     
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    Big L Grandpa’s Cough Medicine is 180 Proof

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    The problem with having an ‘enforcer’ with some hockey skill that you want to see fight is that he does no good sitting in the box for 5 minutes.
     
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    Kevin27nyi Trotz <3

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    RJ next to Barzal sure as **** isn't permanent. But it did work that game. And I want the Boss in every game vs the Knights. He's a nuclear deterrent and has his role. I think he gets scratched next game for Dal Colle.

    But it worked this game and I'm happy he had chances and helped the team get the W.

    Do wish we saw him get his dance with Reaves.
     
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    I’m not suggesting that Ross Johnston is like Tom Wilson. It’s just that I think Johnston is a better skater than I and many others give him credit for. When he’s been in the lineup he hasn’t really hurt us, he has been part of some decent scoring opportunities with Bardreau and Wahlstrom. I think it’s fair to say Johnston is a better option than Matt Martin, who I think has really been poor since coming back from injury, and MDC who is basically an empty jersey out there.
     
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    I’m sure that was a one shot for Trotz, but it served it’s purpose.
     
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    Why do you say that? It doesn't seem particularly true.
     
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    What has Dal Colle done to make you think otherwise? He doesn’t skate, shoot or pass particularly well. Do you keep playing him because he was a first round pick 5 years ago and he might get better?

    Has Matt Martin looked good to you since he came back from injury? I don’t see it.

    Maybe you need to concede a hard truth, that Ross Johnston is better than you think he is.
     
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    I don't think Ross Johnston does those things particularly well either. I do think that expectations are different as personified by your last quoted sentence.

    Ross Johnston serves as a blunt instrument when one is needed. It's not needed very often.
     
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    I think you’re wrong. He’s a better skater and has better hands than Dal Colle. Watch him with Wahlstrom and Bardreau last month. That line was good for zone time and a scoring chance. But then again you didn’t think too much of Bardreau either.
     
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    LeapOnOver Mackenzie is a hack!

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    Think you meant to make this its own thread didn't you?
     
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    No, I can't make a thread at the moment, so I will need someone to copy paste this to a GDT. Everything is up and ready.
    I will need this done for the foreseeable future.
     
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    I understand your point of view. I disagree with it, but I recognize its validity. Appreciate the exchange.
     
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    It appears we aren't going to have a meeting of the minds on Johnston.
     
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    Ya think Ross gets scratched tonight? I wouldn’t mind having him on Barzals line to start. If it doesn’t work, Trotz can easily move them around. But they looked pretty good across the board last game (from the parts I saw), might as well run with it.
     
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    Maybe scratched, maybe not, but I wonder if he'll play on a different line. Either way I didn't think 32-13-12 generated a lot of chances against VGK. I wouldn't be so quick to put Ross back there.
     

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