C Dylan Cozens - Lethbridge Hurricanes, WHL (2019, 7th, BUF)

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  1. Sens of Anarchy

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    2 goals 3 assists so far today
     
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    They have their 3 top forwards playing on the same line, with all 3 being centers.
     
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    Yup. They've had a good game.
     
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    Would argue that it is just padding stats against a slower team. Also I think playing with Krebs is an easy way to get a lot of points because of his high offensive hokey iq.

    I really think that line could maybe counter the Hughes and Caufield duo
     
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    You know, it is possible that Cozens actually has a good game every once in a while. At least watch the game and comment vs giving us the narrative.
     
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    Player of the game today. He's a great player when he sticks to his game and isn't overdoing himself. Just beats you on a simple hardworking power game.
     
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    Cozens had 5 points, of which Krebs was involved in 2...

    He was the best player for Canada up front today
     
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    Things tend to happen in some games. Cozens is a great speedster and has a good shot, but I just don't think he has an amazing hockey IQ. Playing with players (Newhook and Krebs) that have good hockey IQ and more skill help speedy players that can shoot well. This is especially the case against lesser teams. Against tougher teams, players that don't have that high level hockey IQ get shutdown a lot easier.

    This is my last negative comment on Cozens because I don't like to go on some players page to create doubts about their potential.
     
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    I thought Cozens had a hot and cold game..he missed on a number of chances, looked a step behind a lot/passenger on his line for much of the play. I expected more to be honest and this is a case of a player getting points while others generated the work for much of it. Not ****ting on the kid, but those just stat watching, it wasn't as strong of a game as it should/could have been. Rees was a ****ing standout player, that kid was a monster out there today by the way...
     
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    While Caufield is raised to the high heavens in his thread for capitalizing on wide open looks :help:
     
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    Caufield has nothing to do with Cozens and how some might see Cozens..if you are calling Caufield a passenger on his line then you aren't watching the games at all..
    I don't think Cozens had the strong game his stats would indicate, focus on that and not someone else that has no bearing here.

    and I have been defending Cozens on the Hawks board as many have soured on him this past week..not easy to adjust to new roles/linemates like many of Canada's players have to do...one tournament is not a make or break for some of these kids.
     
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    Cozens looked better as the game went on. I didn't notice him much in the first, but then he just kept getting in the middle of it all.

    I still have Dach and Krebs higher on my list of centers, but Cozens is still top 10 to me with a lot of tools.
     
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    I do agree that the Hawks should not be considering Cozens at 3. That decision should come down to Byram, Podkolzin, Turcotte, and Dach.
     
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    Shouldn’t worry about $$$ from the KHL. 2 seasons from now they start a hard cap at $14M with No star player exceptions.
     
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    I don't think he has a low hockey IQ. Is his hockey IQ worse than someone like Hughes or Boldy? I think its certainly better than Podkolzin.
     
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    No kidding. What does “low” mean? For me, it would have to be a clear negative: giving away pucks, making stupid passes, awful positioning, etc. Cozens is the opposite of all that. He doesn’t have outstanding vision or visibly read the play far in advance, and rather plays a simple game. He can still make great patient passes, perform shot fakes to open up passing lanes, etc. as would be expected of any player who produces offensively.
     
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    I think it comes directly from his playmaking, which I think is also underrated.

    Cozens is more of an even scorer/assister than most forwards. Most forwards will have a lot more assists than goals. I think Cozens probably also will have more assists than goals, but I think its going to be a lot closer to even than the majority of players. One of his biggest strengths is his goalscoring. That doesn't mean he's a bad playmaker. He looks for his shot more, and thus will score more goals and get less assists. Its not a complicated calculation. How many players with 50 assists in their pre-draft season are bad playmakers? I think thats where the low IQ comments come from. Since his playmaking gets underrated, his hockey IQ gets underrated. A lot of hockey IQ comments come from perception of playmaking. A goal-scorer who isn't known for being a good playmaker will often be considered low IQ.
     
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    Hasn't been overly impressive in the tournament. His game today was his best. I like him better on the wing.

    I've liked Newhook & Krebs better so far. And he's not in the same tier as any of them, but Brayden Tracey has been better too.
     
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    IMO a Jeff Carter clone who is not HF’s favorite player either.

    Shoots from everywhere, not a great passer but decent enough, good speed, not flashy but very north south and sometimes uninvolved (thats why people might like Krebs more).

    I am a big fan of Cozens.
     
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    I've used the Carter comparison many times.

    He'll be a very effective NHL player imo
     
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    I hope the Kings take him
     
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    isn't cozens defense better (potentially) then carters?
     
  23. DramaticGloveSave

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    He’s got size, but probably at the lower end up of that top tier of forwards. I’d have Newhook, Boldy, Caulfield, and Pod all ahead of him.... prolly place him just above Kaliev.
     
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    I suspect he'll be this draft's Pavel Zacha. Drafted high for good size/potential but never really pans out at the NHL level, at least not in the way that any team drafting him in the top 10 will expect. Perhaps a high end 3rd line C in the future?

    Or... I'm completely wrong and he'll be great. We shall see.
     
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    I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but why ?

    I've seen a lot of posts about Cozens not being the top 5 pick a lot of people seemed to think earlier.

    Is it not as dominating as he should be ?
    Skill just isn't there ?
    Simply producing because of his size and/or teammates ?
     

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