As I said, it significantly decreases value of some players. Look at Ullman. His standard VxV is 89.5. By standard measure 70/30 he should be 62-63, but he is 66. If we go from his ES VxV it gives us 94,3 standard VxV - and the difference between him and Schmidt = 7.4 - pretty significant (and it's exactly what I said in my previous analysis). Let's go further and look at Leclair. His ES VxV is 64. So, his standard VxV should have been somewhere around 91.4. In real life it's only 81.7 (!!!). Yes, ES and PP has it's own features. Sometimes 70/30 ratio works. Sometimes doesn't. I can't agree with the way you look at it - just pure standard VxV points. It simplify our analysis to the point, where too many nuances are missed. Of course, there may be different approach to ATD and players estimation, but I definitely prefer more complex picture. Let's look at goals standard VxV then. Geoffrion 51.2 Lafleur 47.2 Ullman 46.7 Schmidt 36.9 Elias 36.6 Olmstead n/a Assists: Lafleur 71.5 Olmstead 66.4 Schmidt 65.7 Ullman 62.7 Geoffrion 60.6 Elias 53.2 It seems, that your 1st line offensive output comes from assists mostly. Your players' points superiority is superiority of playmakers. But to score a point from an assists you need somebody to finish your pass. Who will finish Lafleur's passes? Schmidt, who were playmaker himself? Elias with his 2 top-10 goals finishes? And if Lafleur is prime finisher in your 1st line (he is capable of it, he was great goal-scorer himself) it makes him only distant second offensive threat between our 1st lines' players behind Geoffrion. My point is - you can't take all Lafleur assists into account because you don't have player in your line who is capable to finish all of them. Some of them will be missed, cause your 1st line players don't have tools to utilize that much assists. Probably, it's too complicated for ATD and better approach will be - let's just sum our players' points and see who has the most. But I'd rather not analyse anything at all, than "analyze" it this way.