Player Discussion: Niku

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  1. GaryPoppins

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    He's been great since his return.
     
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    Not saying you're wrong about him being called up. That has nothing to do with the fact we have 3 throw away Dmen. They were signed or claimed at the times because the org had a use for them at that time. They still have a use for 1 or 2. They don't need all 3. They could waive 1 of them without any problem. They probably clear, but if we are lucky the one waived gets picked up. If enough of our prospects were playing well enough, we could easily waive all 3 without batting an eye. Among our non injured prospects only Heinola, who is no longer available and Niku are playing well enough to push one of those 3 out. So 1 it should be. Keeping Niku in the AHL because you are afraid to waive one of Bitetto, Dahlstrom or Sbisa is totally ridiculous. If that is what we are seeing it is inexcusable on someone's part.
     
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  3. Mortimer Snerd

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    He has been better than I expected. He has been better than Dahlstrom or Sbisa. That is not a high bar.
     
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    Interesting.

    The Jets currently have a number of LD dmen (who shoot left) in the system and on the roster, but a shortage of quality RD dmen (including LH dmen playing right side) on the roster.

    You would think his best opportunity to crack the Jets lineup longer term would be on the right side.

    Might have more to do with the Moose lineup, than grooming Niku for a Jets roster spot, but that is interesting.
     
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    So does anyone here watch many Moose games? Obviously from the box scores Sami is putting up the points. How has he looked in his own end? It would be nice to see him up with the Jets soon.
     
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    Offensively lately Niku has been superb. Defensively just ok. But put both together and you have something. He is the best D man on the Moose at moving the puck. My only "negative" is he seems so slight that he looks a little weak strength wise but its very minor because he is smart with his body position and stick position.

    I think just by basing things on his play he deserves to be in the NHL. If that is the only thing you want to judge things on.
     
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    I'd rather have a poor man's EK than a Potato but that might just be me
     
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    Sounds an awful lot like "we have to keep looking through numbers until I find the stuff I need to confirm my biases"
     
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    Impossible to imagine how he could be worse than Sbisa. Maurice seems to think Sbisa is harder to play against. I think teams find it easy to play against a player that is constantly giving the puck away, missing passes and icing the puck.
     
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    Yes Niku should be in the NHL but he’s not the difference between us winning and losing.
     
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    Maybe, but at least I wouldn't want to pluck my eyes out like I do after every other Sbisa shift.
     
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    Nope but he puts us a little closer to the good side of that equation. Which is what roster management should be about.
     
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    Seriously how bad is Niku in the eyes of management if he can't supplant one of the current Jets garbage defencemen.
     
  15. Hunter368

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    Lineup changes (or the lack of them) aren’t always about skill.....
     
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    .....and what you hear about a players attitude isn't always true.
     
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    The argument that because player A won't immediately turn a team into a cup contender, it isn't worth breaking the status quo for is about the most infuriating thing imaginable.
     
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    If there is anyone he should supplant it is Tucker Poolman, who isn't garbage but is less of a top 4 defenseman than Niku. Colorado showed the Jets what speed on d can do.

    Morrissey-Niku deserves a look, I think that pairing with Scheifele-Laine could make some dynamic plays. I have a hard time taking Sbisa out of the lineup because he helped the PK immediately upon his arrival. It's either Bitetto or Dahlstrom that would likely shake out. If we waived Dahlstrom back to Chicago I don't think fans would be in an uproar. The Moose defense would take a serious hit, but Kovacevic could have opportunity to take the reins.
     
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    I think a Bayesian approach would be much more apt.
     
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    Morrissey and Niku were very good in their one preseason game. I have no clue why it hasn't been looked at again.
     
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  21. Hunter368

    Hunter368 I’m loyal to nothing except the dream.

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    Of course not.........logically all coaches want to win, GM's often want to (barring a tank job). If it was purely based on skill and nothing else all the most skilled players would be playing to give the team, coach and GM what they want.
     
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    Niku waiting to get called up
     
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    I said he be called before the end of the month I’m sticking to my answer but it be if it was next game....:help:
     
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    That of course is dependent on the coach recognizing a players talent and seeing how that can help the team win. I don't believe Maurice has a good grasp on that for dmen. He has never liked to employ yo more offensive minded ones who maybe give something up in their own end.
     
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