Player Discussion: Niku

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  1. Jets 31

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    Maybe Maurice doesn't like long hair , Perreault cut all his and is playing .:naughty:
     
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    Nah, Maurice just hates puck moving D men, his ideal play for a defenceman is to shoot it in even if the Jets have a 6 on 4 advantage!
     
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    You guys can fool yourselves all you want. Chevy is responsible for who is on the roster. Not maurice.
     
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    Chevy may ultimately do the roster moves, but he will definitely consult very closely with Maurice on it. It's far more likely that both Maurice and Chevy are on the same page about Niku than Chevy is keeping him in the AHL against Maurice's wishes.
     
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    I posted in a different thread that the jets cant afford niku to have a breakout year. With less then a million in cap space next year and a AHL d core already.

    I think this is a real possibility in why he is staying in the AHL
     
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    Not if they trade Wheeler :sarcasm:
     
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    Where do you get a mill only for cap space next season?

    With Buff we will have over 6mill in available cap space.
     
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    Check again.
     
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    I see $75.1M committed for next year including Buff. With the current cap of $81.5M that's $6.4M in space. If the cap goes up $1.5M there's $7.9M in space. If Buff's done, there's $15.5M in space.
     
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    Your missing something then. I've seen another poster do the same math as I have as well. Are you including dahlstrom? Morrissey's raise roslos as well ? And a back up goalie?
     
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    Buff?

    Plus until Niku/Pionk arrived/developed and outside Buff has the Jets ever had a offensive D within the organization (Jets 2.0)? I don’t recall anyone of NHL caliber TBH, certainly not top 4 caliber.
     
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    Well Buff has that big and physical streak in him that Maurice overvalues so I wouldn't really count him.

    It is true that we haven't had many of those types but a player like Postma was a solid bottom pairing offensive minded D that was sidelined over horrible defensive players like Harrisson. Niku can't break in despite being an upgrade over Maurice's "defensive" types.
     
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    Just go to cap friendly and play around with potential cap hits depending who is and isn't on the roster.
     
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    I haven't seen anything to confirm what you're suggesting. His use of Buff & Myers & Pionk who are all offensive minded D used in key roles suggest to me he has no issues with offensive D making intelligent choices. IMO looking at the evidence and listening/considering the rumours.....sounds more like the organization is letting Niku mature in the AHL.......aka not develop. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, believe what you will.....I just don't see it.
     
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    With our defense this season anything Buff brings would not be overvalued it would be much needed .
     
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    There is now what that this is the reason Niku is not playing. If he were to have a breakout year then that would in large part solve the Buff issue. There be 9M available without his contract on the books.
     
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    If that's true, it's so backwards my brain hurts. Unless you mean about who is in the "roster pool" in the first place.

    If Chevy has anything to say about playing roster & lineup, they are doing it wrong.
     
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    Every indication from Maurice's comments is that he solicits input from Vincent on how a player is doing on the Moose and then he makes a call on who comes up based on position of need. No doubt contract status also enters in where Chevy would have input on risking a player to waivers that he didn't want the organization to lose.
     
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    Not that it should matter, but doesn't Niku have a pretty "healthy" AHL salary in the 200's?
    I mean, if that's the case the guy should be content, until he gets his inevitable permanent call-up.
     
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    No he has the same $70,000 AHL salary as all other players on their ELC's.
     
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    True, contract status related things are on Chevy, and on that regard and only on that regard he even should affect roster transfers between Jets and Moose. But Maurice can't do his job if it's actually Chevy who decides whether Niku is a good enough player to make it into the NHL team. And I don't really believe that theory by @ffh, not at all.
     
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    1st in PPG for AHL Dmen, i think he's in game shape
     
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    the final call on who is on the 23 man roster is by gm not the coach. once on the roster the coach decides if they play or sit in the press box. with niku the fact that he is waiver exempt plays a big part in him possibly not being up right now.
     
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    IMO it isn't as much about keeping Niku down as it is about inflating the value of some expiring UFAs and hedging our bets a bit on how the rest of the season plays out.

    If we're still hanging around the playoff line in a few weeks it's still a bit of a tough decision because that means that we've still been winning so that means we'll be looking to have an injury before we call him up. If we start losing, we need to decide between calling up Niku to start winning again, which makes sense if it's our bottom pairing that is costing us games, or if we continue to lose should we inflate the value of the expiring UFAs for trade deadline deals.

    Kulikov and Beaulieu likely would have trade value at the deadline if we're playing them big minutes as serviceable NHL Dmen. Not first round picks or anything like that but maybe we could get something for them. Perhaps they're looking at Sbisa and Bittetto and thinking someone might give up something for them too.

    Then you have Dahlstrom who you maybe don't want to expose to waivers.

    Niku is on the team next year as he needs waivers. Stanley does have one more year being waiver exempt.

    All this is to say that I understand not changing things up when we're winning. If it ain't broke... At the same time, I want Niku to get in at least 40 NHL games this year so we know what we have for next year. Is he a top 4 guy or a bottom pair guy because right now next year our D looks like:

    JMo - Poolman
    Samberg - Pionk
    Dahlstrom - Niku

    With Stanley/Heinola likely in the minors as the first call ups. Maybe Heinola gets a spot and Dahlstrom is the 7th D. Who knows what happens with Buff.

    Anyhow, I hope we see Niku soon. Point streak up to 7 games for the Moose.
     

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