Uhh no takesie backsies.
Signed Cam Neely.
Ron Francis is weirdly high, he's got zero on-ice success to go with his Tenure. Shinny young talent with zero on ice success to go with it shouldn't get you into the top half.
Rutherford still strikes me as more of a good "Finisher" than GM that can build a winner. He had a brutal decade after that Canes cup win.
2012 they were first in the conference, 2013 they went to the finals, 2014 the won the presidents trophy. i'd say thats contending,
I think David Poile is ranked too high. He's been there for 21 years, and it took him 18-19 years to build real contender to win it all. I think Shero should be top 2. Look at how much progress the Devils made since he's been here. He's building a very solid team, and the Larsson-Hall trade alone should make him the best GM.
Tallon that low seems unfair. He built the "dynasty" that is the Chicago Blackhawks. I really like this list overall by the way but I would like to see more stock be put into a GM's history with other teams.
Poile sticking around that long is a testament to how good of a GM he is
If by "built" you mean led us into cap hell that was remedied by Bowman to win 2 more cups then yes, you are correct
Chia is too high.
You can't be that good and have 0 cups.
Great post! Love when people put in the effort for a post like this.
Chevy on Defence also drafted Morrisy, therefore our top 2 are homegrown, Also trading out Kane and Bogo has turned out to be a big winner. I think Chevy should be a few spots higher
I mean he brought in that whole core. And Bowman can't seem to keep that team in a good cap situation either
They went to the SCF last year, and they’re contenders for the foreseeable future. And he started with an expansion team.
Hextall just KOd Stevie in the 1st round, guess he's ranked #2 now.
In all seriousness, Hextall is top 10 easily and your breakdown of the Schenn trade was not accurate at all, it was not "Schenn for Lehtera" it was Schenn who was the flyers 5th best forward for two 1sts (one looks to be a future stud in Frost, other not picked yet) and a cap Dump.
Win -win both teams
he's way too high, his canes were awful for a decade
Finally, after 18+ years, it was about time. Don't get me wrong, he's a very good GM, I just don't rate him that high for that reason.
no no. Poile is among the league best. pre salary cap it's unbelievable he was assembling decent teams with 20mil budgets. for a good solid 7 or 8 years after the lockout they were spending at the floor and still iced decent teams.
He drafted Kane 1st overall and Toews at 3rd, which every other GM in the league would have done. The rest of the core was drafted by Pulford prior to 2005. During his tenure, Bowman has proven himself to be far better in the draft, scouting, and trades. He cleaned up the mess left by Tallon such as the Campbell/Huet contracts and retooled the hawks into a perennial contender that led to two more cups. He may not have directly drafted the original core (though he was director of hockey operations and assistant GM since like 2001, which everyone seems to forget) but just look at his draft history since then:
2010: Kevin Hayes and Stephen Johns
2011: Saad, Shaw, Danault, Shalunov
2012: TT, Fournier, Ross, Hinostroza
2013: Hartman, Hayden, Louis
2014: Schmaltz, Snuggerud, Sikura
2015: Knott, Dahlstrom
2017: Jokiharju, Mitchell, Soderlund
All of which were drafted after the 18th pick overall, and have since become either bonafide NHLers or very good prospects.
He turned Cam Barker into Nick Leddy, a couple of draft picks into Johnny Oduya in 2012, and Dahlbeck into Vermette in 2015. On top of that, he picked up both Panarin and TVR as undrafted free agents. Pulford and Tallon's core won us the cup in '10, but Bowman's moves since then made the cups in '13 and '15 and the continued success since then possible.
I still think Bergevin is worse than Chiarelli
Poile is a fantastic GM, i mean he’s made plenty of great moves but consider this:
The Predators have lost Suter, Weber and Seth Jones yet still have arguably the best blue line in the league. That is just insane to think about. Not to mention he’s added guys like Forsberg and Turris for next to nothing.
It's more like a power rankings of GM's than anything. For example Shero had his fair of mistakes in Pitt, but he's been on fire in NJ. Lou was one of the greatest for over a decade, but he screwed NJ hard with his refusal to rebuild. Guys like Chevy I also agree with you, he's been crap forever and finally has a contender, but seriously, he should have been fired eons ago as the Jets were a middling, useless team forever under him. There's just way too much emphasis on the current season in the list.
Poile is way too high. He's been GM for almost 20 years and made it past the 2nd round ONCE. Last season the Preds were literally the lowest seed in the playoffs and made one of the biggest Cinderella runs in history of the NHL. Their defense and goaltending is elite, but their forwards leave A LOT to be desired. When your top 2 centers are barely a threat to score 50 points something is wrong.
As a Pens fan, while JR has been incredible in his 3 years here, he was one of the worst GMs in his 20 years in Carolina. Sure he won a cup, but he also missed the playoffs almost every year. I'll still lump him with the best for the time being because everything he's touched since 2016 turned to gold.
top 5 in no order:
JR - recent success
Doug Wilson- SJ is always competitive. Makes the big acquisition when needed (Heatley, Thornton, Burns)
Stan Bowman- Assembled and re-assembled numerous cup champs in a cap era
Yzerman- his teams are always competitive
Lou Lam - 20 years of success speaks for it self
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