RD Moritz Seider - Jungadler Mannheim, DNL (2019, 6th, DET)

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  1. HOPE

    HOPE Goal Caufield!

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    good news for Detroit!
     
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    GoBoltz56 Athanasiou Later

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    I've only seen him play a few times and I am definitely not saying he will become him...but I honestly think he plays alot like Hedman.
     
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    It was the first thing I noticed lol... not unexpected

    Very interesting. I think I like that more than staying in Germany where he isnt guaranteed huge minutes anyways. This way in Grand Rapids he could get time as a call up or even make the roster if he plays well. Time to get used to playing on North American ice I'm sure hes talked to maangement about this as well if hes saying it to the media
     
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    I like how you tried to endear yourself to others by saying that I wildly go against multiple people. Lately, the only person has been you. And I'm DEFINITELY not the only one to do that.

    You regularly take ****s on 90% of Red Wings related discussion, and it's gotten old. To the point that the vast majority of regulars in the Detroit board are fed up with it. But keep trying to take the focus off you.
     
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    mantha39 Welcome home Captain

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    Guys please use the ignore button so we can get back to a quality discussion lol
     
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    Dotter life feels like a test I didn’t study for

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    Likely? I'd be disappointed if that's his peak. I am expecting a #1 minute eater, PP quarterback and PK specialist. This kid keeps the puck in the zone on PPs and can make some extremely intelligent passes.

    I'm fully expecting him to carve a career out chewing up and spitting out guys like Mathews and Marner for many years to come.
     
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    In a 1-3-1 world you’re either the #1 or a sheltered #6 on the PP: Seider can be a 1st pair minute eater who can chip in at a decent rate at evens who will be your PK leader.

    In a box & 1 where the 1 is below the goal line and the other 4 are all on their off hand, he can be a PP1 player. Has the hands and the skating to make it work.
     
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    This kid may owe me money, the Germans didn’t fully repay Czechoslovakia after the Second World War. Can you comment on this @Babokalypto ? You may owe me money as well. Why aren’t Germans apologizing ?
     
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    I don't focus on me. Or you.
    I focus on the point people are talking about.
     
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    What an odd claim to make as you dodge every single point made in my post.

    Point proven. I think we're done here.
     
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    Your posts aren't about hockey. They're about posters. Constantly. So there's no real point in replying.
    We are done, unless this becomes about Seider.
     
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    IF he is gonna play for Grand Rapids, on what line is he gonna play? GR's D core is stacked. Hicketts, Lindstrom, Saarijarvi, McIlrath, McCrea, Lashoff, D' Astous, Crawford.

    Might even include Hronek and/or Cholowski. He needs top line minutes.
     
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    I see him turning into a Marc Staal type player when Staal was in his prime (top pair defensive dman with a little offense to go along).
     
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    There is 0 chance Hronek plays in Grand Rapids. Guys like D'Astous or Mcrea could be Walleye very easily. I could see Hicketts or even McILrath being the number 7 or 8 D in Detroit. Plus Yzerman could swap an AHL D for an AHL forward pretty easily. Theyre not going to be worried about almost any of those players if Seider is in Grand Rapids he'll play and at the end of the day it'll be fairly easy for Yzerman to make that happen.
     
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    I think he skates better than Staal ever did, though.
    Which will help his peak, and help him avoid an early fall from grace.
     
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    I saw Hicketts as a potential 7, but probably not, because he's NOT (edit) aRH shot.
    McIlrath could make some sense, but my gut says they want that veteran presence and toughness in the GR lineup. I'd personally like to see McIlrath in Detroit for an extended visit.

    Here;s our organization depth chart for our RHD, based on readiness.
    1. Green.
    2. Hronek.
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    3. Bowey
    4. McIlrath
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    5. Saarijarvi
    6. Seider
    7. Kaski
    8. Lindstrom

    Really, you can organize 3 through 8 however you want. But those 6-8 guys have to be playing meaningful minutes.
    Even if you go Hronek-Green-Bowey-McIlrath in the NHL, you;ve got 4 RHD in Grand Rapids.
    Somebody could move over to left - but I'm not sure that's a good idea for a young defenseman - 3 of whom who've never played in the AHL before.

    Or you could trade 1.
    Saarijarvi, as much as I really liked the way he played in exhibition games last year, did take a step forward last year. But he still only produced 16 points in GR. Not exactly promising for a 5'10 offensive defenseman.
    So maybe you try to find a home for him in another organization.

    Holland loves his old draft picks. Saarijarvi and Svechnikov to EDM for Puljujarvi might make some sense.
     
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    Yeah Saarjjarvi is pretty much irrelevant at this point. Offensive D who doesnt produce, he wont be a factor on Seider playing or not. Seider and Lindstrom dont need to play 25 mins a night to develop, theyve both played against men. Get them between 17-20 mins a night and theyll be good, there will be injuries and vets cant play every game down there. Slide a guy on the left for a game or two.

    It wont be hard to get those guys ice time, it looks crowded now but even without a trade it doable. With a trade its easy
     
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    Surely you jest? Marc Staal will be Seider's absolute floor, if he is under-utilized.

    Best case for Seider is Victor Hedman (yes, Hedman).

    Worst case for Seider is Hampus Lindolm.

    Likely case for Seider is Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

    Anyone who has watched this game close enough for years can see this kid oozes upside at both ends of the ice. And his child-like enthusiasm for the game is quite honestly reminiscent of a young Jaromir Jagr.

    Seider will be a complete steal for Yzerman. In two years, he will be considered "the steal" of the draft.
     
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    I’m on the Seider hype train but this post is too much. You just launched a Seider rocket to the moon and I don’t know if I can join this adventure with you.
     
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    God, I hope you're right.
     
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    I mean I dont like the guy or agree with him often but he is right in this case. Sieder is not a super unique once every 3/4 drafts kinda defenseman. Theres guys like him every year, not a bad thing per say, but its just simple facts.
     
  22. HisNoodliness

    HisNoodliness Seider's a big reach? He does have a 6'8 wingspan

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    I'm getting off the Seider hype train to hop on that Seider hype rocket haha. I hope Box is right though because while I like Seider, I definitely don't feel that way
     
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    All good.

    I'm not even close to a Wings fan, just calling it like I see it. I loved Seider as a prospect and wasn't surprised in the least a savvy GM like Yzerman snagged him early. He was rising fast leading up to draft day the same way Erik Karlsson, Travis Sanheim, and Cale Makar were their respective draft years.

    I remember some people were hesitant on Makar because "he played in a lower tier program" but the wise hockey men insisted his raw skill was on a different level, regardless of competition. Sometimes you can just "see it" in a player and I clearly see it with Seider. Obviously Yzerman and the Wings do too... and Stevie is one of the best hockey men on the planet, if we're being honest.

    Wings fans, get excited. Mo Seider is an absolute gem.
     
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    I AM a wings fan and I AM very excited about him.

    I am curious though... if he turns into a OEL level player as you say is most likely... Seider was picked 6th overall, OEL was picked 6th overall and is pretty much what you hope for out of #6 overall, how does that equal the steal of the draft? Sounds like your overly excited about a #6 pick being a #6 pick
     
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    Wow, talk about overrating.
     

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