Round 2 33rd overall Arthur Kaliyev

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  1. ZJames

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    I'm hoping he at least gets a 9 game taste of the NHL next year. If he continues to progress, that might be the best thing for him going forward. Get him a taste of pro hockey so he can go back down to the CHL knowing where he needs to improve in order to make it at the NHL level. I really hope this kid ends up making it.
     
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    I get where you are coming from about his playoff production being slightly down, but I don't think having him spend another season putting up 2+ PPGs in juniors so he can have another OHL playoff run is the best idea for his development. I honestly believe that Schenn had his development stalled because the Kings sent him back to juniors and I thought the same thing at the time. These are prime years for development and spending multiple years dominating your peers begins to yields diminishing returns. As for growing as a professional, that's another reason why I believe going back to juniors is a negative, you need to become a pro to develop as a pro.

    Anyways, this entire problem is the fault of the CHL/AHL agreement which I can't see lasting too much longer.
     
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    Not sure why we're worried about the CHL agreement considering Arty's like 38 already
     
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    And he was dominant at the Little League World Series when under his legal name, Danny Almonte.
     
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    Did you see The Orphan? That was about Kaliyev. The genders in the film were switched to disguise it.
     
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    "Arthur Kaliyev" roughly translates as "Dorian Gray"
     
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    So Arthur is doing great. That's positive news for us.
     
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    What's the big deal? 21 goals and 38 points in 20 games? So what?
     
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    Wouldn’t be as big of a deal if he was in the middle of the pack. However, he leads goals and is second for points in the OHL
     
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    i hope he gets trade soon to a competitive team, bulldogs are tire fire, be good to get him playoof/mem cup experience
     
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    I guess today is 80's day in the OHL, Hamilton won 11-10, Kaliyev with 2+2.
     
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    24 goals in 23 games.
     
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    One thing I keep wondering: Does Jenik inflate Kaliyevs numbers, does Kaliyev inflate Jeniks numbers, or do they benefit mutually off of each other?
     
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    It’s mutually beneficial, but I see that as a good thing. Being able to build chemistry with line mates to get the bext out of each other is an important skill.

    He’s also leading the OHL in goals (24) with the next player having 20. He also comfortably leads with 130 shots, the next guy has 101.
     
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    I'm pretty sure both benefit, although Jenik picked up more points this week when they were on separate lines
     
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    I have come to the conclusion he is not a bad skater. Its not an asset but not a weakness either. Wrong prospect info.
     
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    Kaliyev in all the games and videos I've seen him play this year, he has been wearing the alternate Captain "A" on his jersey. So I think that counts for a leadership role...right?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    They benefit mutually. Both players are on another level than many OHLers and with good chemistry, they feed off each other and neither are being held back by someone who can’t keep up with the skill. As for Van Loon, (the LW), Jenik credits a lot of his and Kaliyev’s success to Van Loon doing a lot of the dirty work and creating room for them.

    As a 16 year old rookie, Kaliyev played up and down the line-up with a lot of skilled players and earned 31 goals and 48 points in his first year. The depth was incredible and they won the OHL championship. Our 3rd line better than many teams’ top line, which likely helped Kaliyev by playing with a lot of talent. Last year he was often with Brandon Saigeon and Matthew Strome. Saigeon and Kaliyev developed amazing chemistry over 2 seasons until Saigeon was traded at last year’s deadline. Also at that time, the Bulldogs acquired Jan Jenik’s CHL rights from Sarnia, who had remained in Czech and but agreed to play for Hamilton. While he learned the North American ice, Kaliyev and Jenik developed chemistry quickly.

    Another aspect that I think has helped Kaliyev a lot, and a big reason why I think the Bulldogs have had a strong PP, is the coach Vince Laise. Prior to this year he was the assistant coach. Before coming to Hamilton 3 years ago, he was an assistant coach with the Erie Otters. With both teams, he has managed the offence and PPs. In Erie, he coached guys like McDavid, DeBrincat, Dylan Strome, and others. His track record with forwards is incredible, and I think a big part of Kaliyev’s development is because of Laise.
     
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    Can't like this enough, we're starved for info here as you can tell haha. Much appreciated.
     
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    So this is like a Crosby/Rousin thing, because we took Rousin with a high 2nd and he sucked as a pro. That was another epic Al Murray pick!
     
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    Jenik is really coming into his own as a total beast but Kaliyev was great without him as well as elsewhere.
     
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    Still remember it, hard to imagine that Rousin is 34 now.
     
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