Post-Game Talk: Tro benched next? Long homestand continues to bring Florida down as they lose vs NYI

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  1. sinDer

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    My bad...

    Somehow, I missed Buffalo and Montreal...just woke up :/

    But anyways...we have to win those games and we're playing Boston next. So not sure things are looking good for us right now
     
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    My standard reply... Then why are you here? I can show you how to get to I95.
     
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    PantherboyHTR An Old School Cat

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    Haven't the Panthers won their last two games versus the Bruins?

    Haven't the Bruins in their last five gone 0-4-1?


    Some people here that are already saying we're going to lose wouldn't be very popular at the craps table .
     
  4. JonathanHuberdoh

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    You mean two weeks from now?
     
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    PantherboyHTR An Old School Cat

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    Two and a half weeks.
    January 1st. St Louis was 15-18-4 last year on that day and won the Stanley Cup.

    Panthers are 15-11-5, and have 8 games remaining until January 1st.
     
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    I think Q isn’t getting enough crap. The team still makes dumb plays on the regular which cost us. Trotz had a substantial impact very early on. When is Q going to do that? Line matchups, lines, ice time etc is easy.
     
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    Agreed. When do we start looking at Q and wondering just what the hell he's even doing?

    The beginning of the year the comebacks seemed to give the impression this team was resilient, something that can be instilled via coaching.

    But the same bone headed mistakes happen, the same turnovers, the lack of effort offensively until it's way too late. All of these are habits from last year. Maybe Coach Q is doing his best to beat it out of them but man, this team looks very Boughner-esque right now.
     
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    We aren't St. Louis. They went on a literally historic run. Look at that roster and that depth. They were always a good team on paper.

    This team can't hold a candle to the personnel St. Louis has.
     
  9. ucanthanzalthetruth

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    I said it last page, team looks the same as under Boogie lol. I like his decisions but end results are the same so far.
     
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    Yeah. For as much crap Boughner got, the issue was always individual decision making, not “his system” or lines. I do think a coach can improve some players but some are not fixable.
     
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    The Weegar turnover was dumb as hell, I doubt Q can control Weegar being an idiot, what is he gonna do? bench him the rest of the game for that?

    it worked with Bob so who knows.
     
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    Like I said at the time when Boughner got fired and Dale picked up Q, the coaching wasn't the issue. Sure one could argue that Q improves it by at least 4% but at the end of the day this squad, acquired and managed by Dale, is really ****ty at the end of the day. Still missing a solid 2C, top4 is overpaid and generates too many mistakes that their offense ability can't cover, bottom6 still can't generate sustained offense to cover for 1st line i.e. Barkov when he's having an off night, overall lack of consistency as a team, etc. A ten year rebuild still going strong... Viola better fire Dale after this season is done.
     
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    Sure that lost you can personalised who makes mistakes who makes not.

    But I would use this lot to start to things. A PP that doesn't look like the other one. That back pass get stopped so often or get break up that they have to find a new entry into the Zone.

    One option would be have 2 complete PP Unites. maybe with one reserve each and that two groups have two different system they play. That would make it hard to find a way to play against.

    The same goes to the PK unite. The PP Goals we get comes very often from shots of the Blue line.
    Why? The current Zone coverage are useful to block the shots from outside, the Laine, stamkos, Ovi and all other shots. for that you play Zone coverage.

    But in conclusion the Slot and the Goalie is complete open. And here I would create 2 PK Units who are always play together one Zone coverage and one Diamond or 1-1-2.

    Otherwise we get a lot more PP Goals against us.
    By the Way Goldie and Co. let it listen like it was only the isle very effective on PP. there much more since.

    Last Game Yandle made the biggest defensive mistake, this time it was Weegar misplay and the Team.
    Sorry 3 man break out on PK, all for translation Game, again on PK, on a alley op pass.
    Can I get also 1 to 4 Million for play like that.
    1 Panthers against 3 Isles and 3 Panthers on the Jump in PK.

    Sorry maybe I'm already to old, but those modern Hockey ideas are crazy.

    In the end unlucky Panthers can't use all their chances. and again a blinded Goalie and a single misplay cost us the Game.

    At now at least, what I like even I am a Panthers fan is how the Isles played the Game. The Isles played against our Top line like Washington did and Boston doing it usual. It was aggresive and physical and that is what they can't play with.

    So for our 1st Line, challenge, find a Way to play against physical opponents and way of Game.
     
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    Well Trotz got the Islanders to significantly reduce their GAA and a major part was substantially fewer mistakes. I’m not saying he can eliminate all of them. Yandle will still be Yandle, but you can coach players to be smarter with the puck
     
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    And we have arguably a stronger squad now than we did with coach Boughner as well.
     
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    In some aspects yes.

    But one major difference is Boughner had a better Trocheck.
     
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    I mean, Trocheck was a liability last year as well. I think he had a stretch of 5 good games when he returned from his injury last year.
     
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    I am speaking more on Bough's first season.
     
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    god damn... that's all i came here to say.

    if we're talking about accountability, tro has had a free ride all season. i've always disliked him but he's a step slower, not winning any races or battles for pucks, showing little effort in the defensive end and still making the same idiotic plays.

    he isn't providing anything.

    the 2nd line is dead weight 5v5. when the top line isn't scoring and we don't get scoring from the bottom six or help from the PP, we're dead.

    i'd try malgin in there.
     
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    trotz is brilliant.

    i love that he won the cup with the caps then took another job in the division so he could stick it to them for trying to go cheap with his contract.

    but i think it's true that he picked a roster with some coachable, young players. again, brilliant.

    i've worried out load here for years that we aren't going to win anything with players like trocheck as "core".

    some of the other younger, irresponsible players have improved a bit but we still have too many guys who don't get that the fancy **** is low percentage and you have to check and get your nose dirty to win consistently in the NHL.

    it's not always fun but neither is losing.
     
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    One of the biggest problems with this team is, they don't do the fundamentals like moving their feet. They don't want to put in the work. That is a difference between them and the rest of the league. And it's not just when they are stationary, it's when they are in motion as well. As soon as some opponent comes at them when they have the puck, their legs get paralyzed.
    And then a lot of the time, that ends up with them flinging the puck randomly around the ice, mostly because they've ran out of options. Turnover.
    And the fact that they don't move their feet, but then still try to be creative, then leads to them being too cute with the puck.
    And that Weegar turnover was so bad, I can't even....
     
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    I feel bad for Vatrano, that dude is always hustling and moving his feet.
     
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    In all aspects. This is the most talented roster we've ever had (pathetic)
     
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    If this team doesn't win at least a round, time to fire Dale
     
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    But Huberdeau was not as dominant as he is today.
     
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