Hmm I don't know, if take aways are counted as good in order to beef up certain players, and give aways are ignored to beef up other players isn't that forcing an outcome you want to see rather than number based facts? I am not trying to sound confrontational or negative. I am trying the learn how stats like this are generated. And my brain tells me if take aways are good and contribute to winning give aways have to be bad and result in losing. If I steal the puck or you throw my winger the puck by mistake, it results in the same thing.